tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post7685751907099795276..comments2023-10-29T06:41:23.910-07:00Comments on Halfway There: The world ends againZenohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09058127284297728552noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-87346958379246093842010-07-25T19:19:57.355-07:002010-07-25T19:19:57.355-07:00I don't believe in God, Anonymous, but I belie...I don't believe in God, Anonymous, but I believe in paragraphs. Ever heard of them?Zenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09058127284297728552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-80269207423802800252010-07-25T19:14:36.165-07:002010-07-25T19:14:36.165-07:00Mr Camping is very incredible smart person,if this...Mr Camping is very incredible smart person,if this date 5/21/2011 is accepted by God,than is End,rapture and finish 10/21/2011.One thing I do,nt like with statments of Mr Camping,his comment about this day look like God comment,and not believing his date is not believing whole Bible.and not believing that Christ sheeded blood for his children Mr Camping loose one point that he is a human and Bible clerly say that every human is a lier and only God is the truth means without of any error or mistake.but Mr Camping human proud do,nt let him admitt posible mistake even one week,this type of sin can lead Mr Camping to the ground,because Bible is Gods Word and doubt question about Mr Camping 5/21/2011 is not against doubt about truthfulness of Bible or sheeded blood of Jesus Christ.I as past JW DEEPLY BELIEVE IN PATTERN TIME OF BIBLICAL CHJRONOLOGY of Mr Camping and my expectation as child of God that this time is as from the human love to heavenly Father is trutfull and 5/21/2011 will come as Judgement Day,but if human child of God love crated some kind of imperfect human error this day will pass away like other days of our earthly life,but I as child of God do,nt put Mr Camping in the ranks of false prophets or under question his lifetime serving JESUS CHRIST,he is not like JW predictions,because JW PREDICTED MANY times time of the end not on biblical chronology of time,only all foundation of this religion is based on chronology 12 century bishop Usher 7000 existency of earth.Bishop Usher chronology is false not biblical and all foundation of jw ORGANISATION BASED ON this 7000 years chronology is false,year 1914,144 000,1000 years reigning Christ on earth also is not biblical because 1000 years is fullness of 10x10x10 3 times Gods perpose lead us to 1000 years of fullness not literal number.144000 is based as fulness of Christ Ages not literal number product of 1914 and false teachings of Russel and Judge Rutheford who predict a lot false prophecies included building in California residence for Abraham and Prophets those all lies do,nt give any creditibility that JW is true religion. Bible NWT is also false interpretation of hebrew and old kojne greek language.<br />but Mr Camping teachings match exactly and truthfully whole Bible and I wish for him a lot of blessings by Almighty God,as teacher,Gods servant,and child of GodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-84483690066976366942010-01-27T18:01:56.218-08:002010-01-27T18:01:56.218-08:00I'm going to quote you: "Until a stupid p...I'm going to quote you: "Until a stupid pill is developed, religion can serve that purpose."Monadohttp://sciencenotes.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-53872701625418494232010-01-09T23:17:05.961-08:002010-01-09T23:17:05.961-08:00Camping makes this statement in his apostate book ...Camping makes this statement in his apostate book 1994? (page 244)<br /><br />"We may have already come into the final tribulation period, as indicated by the present development of events in the church and in the world. However, we must not risk trying to be wiser than God. God has given considerable Biblical evidence that may indicate that the end is near, but conclusions as to the timing of the end of the world are partially based on CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. NO STATEMENT IN THE BIBLE PLAINLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY TELL OF THE ARRIVAL OF THE FINAL PERIOD." 1994? Page 244<br /><br />Camping was much wiser when he was younger....he realized that there is "no statement in the Bible" that directly states of the arrival of the final end.<br /><br />It is based on circumstantial evidence.....not Biblical fact<br /><br />That is why when you ask Camping where in the Bible does it state that May 2011 is the end, no verse is quoted.<br /><br />Just projections and math calculations via "progressive revelation"<br /><br />Camping predicts the timing of the end, the way that financial analysts predict the future of stocks. And as one knows, such predictions can be 100% wrong.<br /><br />When God told Nineveh that they would be destroyed in 40 days, that was a "direct statement"<br /><br />No such statement exists on the timing of the last day.<br /><br />Camping's now states that his date-settings are 100%.<br /><br />As Camping becomes more senile, his understanding of judgment becomes warped:<br /><br />"Great men are not always wise: NEITHER DO THE AGED UNDERSTAND JUDGMENT" Job 32:9LAMBSFURYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14597108922754153351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-60455501276409062412010-01-04T15:34:06.280-08:002010-01-04T15:34:06.280-08:00Christ hung on the Cross April 3, 33AD in the Juli...Christ hung on the Cross April 3, 33AD in the Julian Calendar that converts to April 1 in our Gregorian calendar.<br /><br />Camping feels that 722,500 days from the Cross to May 21 means something, because it breaks down to prime numbers<br /><br />Well, 722,400 breaks down to 43x7x5x5x4x4x3x2....that does not mean now that something special is going to occur here.<br /><br />You can find all sorts of numbers that break down.<br /><br />Secondly, Camping's calendar is 100% wrong to begin with. 2011 is not 7,000 years to the flood.<br /><br />Among the many errors that he makes is that the 430 years of Exodus 12:40 begin with Egypt, while Galatians 3:16-18 shows that it begins with Abraham in Canaan. <br /><br />That throws Camping's calendars off my 215 years.<br /><br />Camping also states that the father of Moses is "missing" in the Bible. When the Bible says 4x that Amram is the father of Moses - Exodus 6:20, Numbers 26:59, I Chronicles 6:3, I Chronicles 23:13.<br /><br />The fact that Amram is the father of Moses is also supported by the Dead Sea Scrolls, Josephus (who owned the original Temple scriptures after Jerusalem's 70AD destruction), as well as the Book of Jasher.<br /><br />Just by the lone fact that Amram is the father of Moses, ruins all of Camping's dates.<br /><br />The Dead Sea Scrolls also also in the writings of Levi, Kohath and Amram, that Camping's chronology is 100% wrong.<br /><br />In addition, Camping assumes that there are no errors in the current masoretic text, as far as the geneologies of Genesis 5 and Genesis 11.....Josephus who owned the Nehemiah Library mostly agreed with the Septuagint and not the MT text, as far as Gen 5 and 11.<br /><br />So, what does all this say?<br /><br />Camping's calendar is based on lots of "assumptions" and his assumptions are no more accurate than the evolutionists...<br /><br />God does not make us look to "assumptions" by some self-appointed prophet to determine the end....<br /><br />The end comes in an hour "we think not" - Matthew 24:44<br /><br />It is outside our human reasoning when "we think" it might happen.<br /><br />There have been over 200 dates of the end since the First Century, all with a 100% failure rate<br /><br />The issue is not "May 21" as far as the Campingites. It can be some other date, and his slaves will follow along.<br /><br />The issue with the Campingites is that they are trying to prove that Family Radio is the special appointed divine organization where God comes down to man. That is how the cults think.<br /><br />There is no "special divine organization." <br /><br />Just like with the Millerites in 1844, once May 2011 passes (assuming Christ does not come before this to their snare) Family Radio will break up and splinter into different groups, and many will go into the underground. <br /><br />They never will be a credible witness again in the eyes of anybody.<br /><br />They did not learn their lesson in 1994, 1995, 1996.....and 2011 will be their end. Financial support will plummet, and even the most die-hard supporters of Camping will forsake him.LAMBSFURYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14597108922754153351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-48163391764855842302010-01-04T03:30:47.259-08:002010-01-04T03:30:47.259-08:00Jesus Christ hung on the cross on April Fool's...Jesus Christ hung on the cross on April Fool's day?Priyankhttp://fierysouls.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-8528940522900041682010-01-03T06:54:54.618-08:002010-01-03T06:54:54.618-08:00My question, with all of this, is why the Chronicl...My question, with all of this, is why the Chronicle, or any other serious news outlet, thinks this silliness is worth giving any ink (or phosphor) to. Justin Berton and the SF Chronicle may, indeed, have treated this as the laughable crap that it is, but why did they choose to cover it <i>at all</i>?<br /><br />It's the fact that they get coverage that keeps these idiots going. We need to ignore them, simply and totally.Barry Leibahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14205294935881991457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-42726937743007794182010-01-02T10:21:06.226-08:002010-01-02T10:21:06.226-08:00Good post. I left the following comment for Justin...Good post. I left the following comment for Justin Berton:<br /><br />The real story is not that Camping thinks he's the god Chronos and that he will be proven wrong once again. The real story is the darker side of his message which has those who lack faith in his prediction enduring a world-wide earthquake on 5/21/2011, followed by 5 months of hell on earth until the world ends on 10/21/2011. "It will happen" he insists, and those who don't believe it will be "left behind". Watch for a spike in the suicide rate as the date approaches a la Jim Jones' People's Temple.Aprilhttp://www.atheolous.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-66071928119021497612010-01-02T10:08:37.486-08:002010-01-02T10:08:37.486-08:00Camping had made 10 date predictions from 1994-199...Camping had made 10 date predictions from 1994-1996<br /><br />1. 1978 - Camping declares to his Alameda Church that the rapture would occur in 1978 <br /><br />2. September 6, 1994 - Camping prediction # 2 - Based on 1994? <br /><br />3. September 15, 1994 - Camping prediction # 3 - Based on 1994? <br /><br />4. September 29, 1994 - Camping prediction # 4 - Based on 1994? <br /><br />5. October 2, 1994 - Camping prediction #5 - Claimed Christ was born Oct 2, in 7AD and would return exactly 2000 years later. <br /><br />6. March 16, 1995 (Purim) - Camping prediction # 6 - Camping claims this is "Watch # 1" of a new wave of dates. <br /><br />7. September 24, 1995 - Camping prediction # 7 - Camping claims that there is Biblical evidence of Christ returning "383 days" after September 6, 1994. Camping also claims that September 24, 1995 is 721 + 91 Ceros(A ceros is little over 18 years - 223 lunar cycles or revolutions. A ceros is the complete revoluation of the sun, moon, stars and planets) - Camping claims that these revolutions can predict the end. Camping also states that if you divide the 2300 days of Daniel 8 by the number "6" you get 383. Thus, according to Camping, you can add 383 days to September 6, 1994 and come to September 24, 1995. September 24, 1995 ends the magic 383 day period. Camping starts to look to astrology to predict the end..<br /><br />8. December 25, 1995 - Camping prediction # 8 - Camping claims that Christ will return on Christmas and the Bible supports this<br /><br />9. April 3, 1996 - Passover (Watch # 3)- Camping prediction # 9 - Camping claims that there is Biblical evidence of Christ returning 191 days after September 25, 1995 on the Passover. <br /><br />10. May 3, 1996 - Camping prediction # 10 - Camping claims that there is a 30 day grace period after April 3, 1996 which Christ can return. <br /><br />Date setters all believe in the false doctrine of "progressive revelation" after the Bible was completed in violation of Revelation 22:18.LAMBSFURYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14597108922754153351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-20421248699437330112010-01-02T01:09:47.414-08:002010-01-02T01:09:47.414-08:00Unfortunately, of course, this isn't likely to...Unfortunately, of course, this isn't likely to deter Camping or his followers. The religious always like to believe the end is just around the corner, and never seem to be bothered much in the long term when it doesn't come as scheduled.<br /><br />Heck, to take an example from my own religious background (before my deconversion), Joseph Smith said in 1835 that the Second Coming would happen within fifty-six years. The church doesn't really talk about that nowadays.An Anonymous Cowardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14379884817819168388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-40901372354023403762010-01-01T22:48:15.894-08:002010-01-01T22:48:15.894-08:00He's holding that in reserve, so that when the...He's holding that in reserve, so that when the world doesn't end, he'll be able to explain why: it's the Pope's fault.Miki Z.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02974670188688656295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-41430073675546457752010-01-01T22:43:39.225-08:002010-01-01T22:43:39.225-08:00I wonder why there is no correction for the change...I wonder why there is no correction for the change to the gregorian kalendar...Vjatcheslavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16040056549323234163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-86751665971828592722010-01-01T20:20:36.347-08:002010-01-01T20:20:36.347-08:00I remember Camping. There was one local guy (an en...I remember Camping. There was one local guy (an engineer, of course) who was a big booster. Went real silent after Sept 30. Same on soc.religion.christian, which I was reading at the time: lots of "You'd better be ready!" from the Campingites, as if even Christians who didn't believe him would be in trouble. The moderator plaintively expressed the hope that if Jesus didn't return on schedule, these folks would come back and apologize. To my knowledge, none ever did.Eamon Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04262012749524758120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-82070258282982195902010-01-01T15:36:54.729-08:002010-01-01T15:36:54.729-08:00Some other good ones can be found here:
http:/...Some other good ones can be found here:<br /><br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_religious_prophecies<br /><br />Looks like the bit on Harold Camping needs to be fleshed out a bit...Laikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165304577490923507noreply@blogger.com