tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post158907200096496111..comments2023-10-29T06:41:23.910-07:00Comments on Halfway There: A cold day in physicsZenohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09058127284297728552noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-51673362197807465592008-03-25T18:06:00.000-07:002008-03-25T18:06:00.000-07:00Adoro suas fotos, bom blog!Adoro suas fotos, bom blog!Steve Ballmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03700148299332589776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-59108993734484575362008-03-25T13:31:00.000-07:002008-03-25T13:31:00.000-07:00Zeno wrote:"Jed says "over 3,000 papers." Sounds i...Zeno wrote:<BR/><BR/>"Jed says "over 3,000 papers." Sounds impressive. I checked his on-line bibliography. It actually has nearly 3500 publications listed. Wow. Even better. But it includes such solid peer-reviewed items as Rothwell's "Review of Profiles of the Future" . . .<BR/><BR/>I did not include that in the ~3,000 papers. I subtracted everything written by me, and also the 52 newspaper articles listed in the index and other miscellaneous non-papers. I have tagged every item in the database in categories such as "Scientific paper" "Review" "History" and so on, and I excluded all but the first category from the tally of 3,000 papers.<BR/><BR/>The breakdown of Reference Types is as follows:<BR/><BR/>Journal papers: 2,059<BR/>Proceedings papers: 1,169<BR/>Misc.: 260<BR/><BR/>Total: 3,488<BR/><BR/>Peer-reviewed journal papers were also tallied by Britz, and he sent scanned images of them to me. There are 1,280 of these.<BR/><BR/>Note that most of the full text papers are from Proceedings because they have fewer copyright restrictions.<BR/><BR/><BR/>"Way to pad the bib!"<BR/><BR/>The bibliography is not padded. Zeno has jumped to a conclusion. He noticed that I reported 3,000 instead of 3,400. He should have stopped to think why I would undercount.<BR/><BR/><BR/>"And who can deny that cold fusion (or "low-energy nuclear reactions," as the true believers have renamed it for PR purposes) is widely accepted throughout the scientific research community and not at all a tepid backwater out on the fringes, eh?"<BR/><BR/>I believe this is sarcasm, but in fact cold fusion is widely accepted, and the claims to the contrary by skeptics are wrong. A public opinion survey in Japan and the DoE review panel in the U.S. both revealed that scientists are split evenly for and against cold fusion. 50% is widespread support. There is no consensus against cold fusion. Furthermore, all 2,000 of the researchers who have published positive evidence are mainstream scientists at major labs, and most of them are distinguished, senior scientists. (Junior scientists cannot be funded, and I do not add scientists to the database unless they have professional credentials.)<BR/><BR/><BR/>"I remain unimpressed."<BR/><BR/>How many of the technical papers have you read, Mr. Zeno? What is the basis for your being unimpressed? Can you point to any errors in the major published papers? Your opinion -- unsupported by any technical arguments -- does not get a free pass. Handwaving and glancing at the titles of a few papers does not count. You have to have a reason to be unimpressed, and you have to present it with as much rigor as the authors of these papers present their reasons.<BR/><BR/>I do not think you would dismiss other electrochemical or solid state research without citing any papers, reasons or facts.<BR/><BR/>- Jed RothwellJed Rothwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00179077151947615762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-63857381271323327022008-03-25T09:31:00.000-07:002008-03-25T09:31:00.000-07:00Jed says "over 3,000 papers." Sounds impressive. I...Jed says "over 3,000 papers." Sounds impressive. I checked his on-line bibliography. It actually has nearly 3500 publications listed. Wow. Even better. But it includes such solid peer-reviewed items as Rothwell's "Review of Profiles of the Future" (the Arthur C. Clarke book) in <I>Infinite Energy</I> and "Cold Fusion Believer Turned Skeptic Crusades for More Rigorous Research" in <I>Chemical Engineering News</I>. Way to pad the bib!<BR/><BR/>And who can deny that cold fusion (or "low-energy nuclear reactions," as the true believers have renamed it for PR purposes) is widely accepted throughout the scientific research community and not at all a tepid backwater out on the fringes, eh?<BR/><BR/>I remain unimpressed.Zenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09058127284297728552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-35492005869375812842008-03-24T07:05:00.000-07:002008-03-24T07:05:00.000-07:00Cold fusion was completely correct. It was replica...Cold fusion was completely correct. It was replicated by hundreds of world-class laboratories, and these replications were published in mainstream, peer-reviewed journals.<BR/><BR/>You need to read some actual scientific literature before commenting on this. Do not repeat unfounded nonsense from the Internet.<BR/><BR/>You will find a bibliography of over 3,000 papers and the full text from over 500 papers here:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://lenr-canr.org" REL="nofollow">http://lenr-canr.org</A><BR/><BR/>- Jed Rothwell<BR/>Librarian, LENR-CANR.orgJed Rothwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00179077151947615762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-21398271790730866852008-03-23T17:10:00.000-07:002008-03-23T17:10:00.000-07:00Here's the thing that scares me: Intelligent desi...Here's the thing that scares me: Intelligent design is sorta the cold fusion of biology, only without the good research results.<BR/><BR/>Now, why are Pons and Fleishman, who goofed, considered fodder for jokes, and the Discovery Institute considered anything other than another comedy club in Seattle?Ed Darrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10056539160596825210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-29742479525783972542008-03-23T15:19:00.000-07:002008-03-23T15:19:00.000-07:00I was there at ground zero. Very interesting time...I was there at ground zero. <A HREF="http://cobranchi.com/" REL="nofollow">Very interesting times</A>.Dee Paolinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00451533175943518650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-32162079609986118312008-03-23T12:38:00.000-07:002008-03-23T12:38:00.000-07:00"this has yet to be verified by any university tha...<I>"this has yet to be verified by any university that doesn't have a good football team"."</I><BR/><BR/>I was on the faculty senate of the University of Oklahoma when the incoming president, David Boren, proclaimed his desire to make the school one of which the football team could be proud.Woody (Tokin Librul/Rogue Scholar/ Helluvafella!)https://www.blogger.com/profile/09205896988142798901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-36332209932443435142008-03-23T12:23:00.000-07:002008-03-23T12:23:00.000-07:00It's a joke that has the academic reputation of ma...It's a joke that has the academic reputation of many of America's large public universities as its butt. Sounds like the snubbing of a nose to me. But nice ad hominem attack anyway.Derick Schaudieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13817877392700921706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-61035228771870628002008-03-23T10:37:00.000-07:002008-03-23T10:37:00.000-07:00It's one thing to criticize rampant elitism and bi...It's one thing to criticize rampant elitism and bigotry, but to completely fail to appreciate a good joke is an example of the kind of self-importance and lack of a sense of humor that keeps most people away from science, instead of embracing it.PJayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16843936398201317377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-77570688565016369992008-03-23T09:22:00.000-07:002008-03-23T09:22:00.000-07:00It's one thing to criticize repeated, unverified, ...It's one thing to criticize repeated, unverified, largely unfounded claims, but to insinuate that any school with a good football team can't be taken seriously scientifically is the type of academic elitism that breeds resentment against the spread of knowledge, instead of supporting it.Derick Schaudieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13817877392700921706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-76994056170623889712008-03-22T22:12:00.000-07:002008-03-22T22:12:00.000-07:00I don't remember when or where I heard the quote, ...I don't remember when or where I heard the quote, but when the whole cold fusion thing was happening someone said something like "this has yet to be verified by any university that doesn't have a good football team".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com