tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post83692477798300171..comments2023-10-29T06:41:23.910-07:00Comments on Halfway There: Tony goes to RomeZenohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09058127284297728552noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-91759989816879334122007-12-26T12:08:00.000-08:002007-12-26T12:08:00.000-08:00Ridger, it may be a small technical point, but you...Ridger, it may be a small technical point, but your clarification is perfectly reasonable.<BR/><BR/>Interrobang, I must certainly concede your point: You can reason perfectly logically from a wacky set of premises (and nontrivially so, provided the premises aren't contradictory to each other). In fact, I routinely play this game, especially when crossing rhetorical swords with Protestant evangelicals who want to "prove" to me that Catholicism isn't really Christianity. I then enthusiastically take up cudgels on behalf of my former religion and have a better-than-average record of technical knock-outs. I even wrote a post about it titled <I>Axiomatic Catholicism</I>, which you'll find listed in the sidebar among my favorites.Zenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09058127284297728552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-72229211533664626072007-12-26T10:16:00.000-08:002007-12-26T10:16:00.000-08:00The religion of Episcopalians is Christianity.Not ...<I>The religion of Episcopalians is Christianity.</I><BR/><BR/>Not according to the Catholics, the Protestant Fundamentalist Evangelicals, the Lutherans, and everybody else. Speaking as a non-Christian, it always amuses me that Christians spend so much time pointing at each other trying to play "We're Christians and you're not!" with each other, while simultaneously rushing to embrace the label themselves.<BR/><BR/>Zeno, I'm not sure what you mean by "mind games rather than as genuine logical reasoning." At least as far as I'm concerned, you can have perfectly good logical reasoning that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with anything real. In fact, you can spend a long time mentally masturbating with formal logic, if that's what you're into. Meh. I'm a rhetorician, so what do I know -- it's all about style over substance to me anyway... *grin*Interrobanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14073177798747299275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-22187676110291785822007-12-26T07:54:00.000-08:002007-12-26T07:54:00.000-08:00As a former Episcopalian, I think you're wrong in...As a former Episcopalian, I think you're wrong in a major feature. Episcopalians do not "belong to a religion whose raison d'ĂȘtre is the dissolution of an unhappy king's marriage." They belong to a CHURCH whose etc. A church whose origin is actually the attempt of a king to create a <I>national</I> religion, rather than one whose members owed allegiance to a foreign political leader. The religion of Episcopalians is Christianity.The Ridger, FCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01538111197270563075noreply@blogger.com