tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post50391256101628228..comments2023-10-29T06:41:23.910-07:00Comments on Halfway There: The new California quakeZenohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09058127284297728552noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-2714482132559364022008-05-28T23:15:00.000-07:002008-05-28T23:15:00.000-07:00You have a point, Nick. Young people do seem to te...You have a point, Nick. Young people do seem to tend to become more conservative as they grow older. Nevertheless, I don't think too many of them are likely to go from thinking gay marriage is no big deal to regarding it as some horrible social disaster. I think the attitude of young people today is a measure of the degree to which the culture has changed. R makes a good point in his (or her) comment about the way that young people might be conservative about <I>other</I> things in the future.<BR/><BR/>As for William's question: It takes a simple majority of the popular vote for an initiative to become law. California allows for two kinds of initiatives: statutory and constitutional. Initiatives that amend the state constitution are more difficult to get on the ballot. Those require a number of signatures of qualified voters equal to 8% of the votes cast in the most recent gubernatorial election. Statutory initiatives require only 5%. Proposition 22 was statutory and subject to the supreme court's judicial review. Its supporters are now trying for a constitutional version that would overrule our supreme court.Zenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09058127284297728552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-7143145958127843782008-05-28T22:56:00.000-07:002008-05-28T22:56:00.000-07:00What would it take for the amendment to succeed? S...What would it take for the amendment to succeed? Simple majority?Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052684196866992031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-53416564638483046212008-05-28T22:02:00.000-07:002008-05-28T22:02:00.000-07:00Don't they also say, though, that today's liberali...Don't they also say, though, that today's liberalism is tomorrow's conservativism? Those 18-21s could very wel support gay marriage in the future, but still be considered connservative because they're against whatever tomorrow's hot issue will be. (Cloning, robots, you name it)Joeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05404933714236342658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15868947.post-61093551560105043762008-05-28T19:54:00.000-07:002008-05-28T19:54:00.000-07:00Every younger group is even more supportive, and t...<I>Every younger group is even more supportive, and therein lies a tale. The people who will dominate tomorrow's elections think same-sex marriage is no thing to be afraid of ...</I><BR/><BR/>Although I tend to agree with your interpretation, things may be a bit more complicated. It has long been observed that people tend to get more conservative as they grow older. Some younger people who currently support gay marriage may change their minds as they grow older.<BR/><BR/>And speaking of age, I wonder how much of the variation in opinion across regions can be explained by different age compositions.Nick Barrowmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11224940659269649220noreply@blogger.com